The VPRO radio show “De Avonden” is a daily show (in Dutch) about the intersection of culture and the arts — film, theater, poetry, visual arts, and so on. This week they are featuring a special program called “Sex, Geen Kunst!” about the intersection of sex and the arts.

I’m very flattered to be invited to chat with award-winning author Arnon Grunberg and artist/host Wim Noordhoek about porn tonight. We discuss a series of amateur and professional clips together, and just generally free-form about porn positions, the differences between alternative and mainstream porn, the role of narrative, and Arnon’s personal porn stories.

You can hear tonight’s program at *10pm* tonight, Tuesday May 14, 2013.

(Update: If you’re watching the clip online, after it airs, you can skip to our part of the show at 1:25:00)

Check out the rest of their program too. Highlights include:

– erotic film expert at the Dutch Film Archive, Ronald Simons, about the history of porn (tonight also)

– a debate on the “new prudishness” including ‘Sunny Side of Sex’ documentary filmmaker Sunny Bergman

– the new artistic director of the Arnhem Fashion Biennial talking about fetish and fashion

– a discussion of irony in the Kama Sutra, with translator Herman Tieken

…and much more.